How we cite our quotes: Stephanus pagination (the standardized way in which every text of Plato is divided). Every edition and translation will have this pagination in the margins.
Quote #4
“Who do you say are the true [philosophers]?" he said.
"The lovers of the sight of the truth." (475e)
In defining the "true philosophers," Socrates imagines that these true philosophers' relationship to truth will be more than intellectual; it will also be visual. Can you imagine what it would be like to love "the sight of truth"? What do you think this means? Does it mean seeing truth in action, for example in a beautifully organized city like the one these guys come up with?
Quote #5
"No taste for falsehood; that is, [philosophers] are completely unwilling to admit what's false, but hate it, while cherishing the truth." (485b)
Taking the whole philosophy-truth connection even further, Socrates insists that philosophers hate lies... which doesn't totally jive with his whole "noble lie" theory, right? Or does it?