The Republic Literature and Writing Quotes

How we cite our quotes: Stephanus pagination (the standardized way in which every text of Plato is divided). Every edition and translation will have this pagination in the margins.

Quote #4

"Above all... it mustn't be said that gods make war on gods, and plot against them and have battles with them—for it isn't even true—provided that those who are going to guard the city for us must consider it most shameful." (378c)

Gods fighting with gods? That sounds like pretty much every Greek myth ever. Guess there are going to be a lot of stories banned in this city. Is Socrates right that people end up emulating stories all the time? Is that too simplistic of an idea about how we experience art?

Quote #5

“Then... we mustn't accept Homer—or any other poets—foolishly making this mistake about the gods..." (379c-d)

You might be noticing a pattern here, since Socrates is particularly worried about how poetry represents the divine. He doesn't like the idea that gods might be considered foolish. Does representing them that way make them so? Do these stories confuse people? Is it better not to have the stories at all?

Quote #6

"Do you suppose anyone who believes Hades' domain exists and is full of terror will be fearless in the face of death and choose death in battles above defeat and slavery?" (386b)

Socrates thinks bravery in his soldiers is super important... so he's not too happy that so many stories about the afterlife are all doom and gloom. How will people be brave if they hear these kinds of stories?